Saturday, 27 February 2016

Rambling thoughts on the Deathwatch: Overkill team

Who can't be excited for Overkill?  I'm pretty sure I won't be picking up a box (I can't see enough kitbashing potential in it right now, that's a pity) but I'm pretty bloody excited all the same!  Not least of all the figures themselves-- it would appear that GW might be returning to their more classic style, which is a nice thought.  Right now I just wanted to share my uncoordinated thoughts on the Space marines, what I saw when I looked at their images on the webstore so my opinion is in no way valid but oh well--!

A broad overlook tells me that these will be archetypes of their chapter, in their pose, their effects, each founding chapter in a nutshell, pretty much.

Ortan Cassius-- It's nice to see this fellow getting some attention again; seeing as he is a tyrannic war vet it only makes sense.  So much detail from his first metal figure has been replicated, down to the book on the chain; it's this kind of homage to the past that gets me excited...  I'm not sure what happened to his face though, but his new (borrowed?) flesh certainly has a rather chaplain-ish air about it.  The pose is well done, too.  It feels as though he is trying to be the calm assertive energy his team can fall upon should their anger boil over-- but he's having trouble keeping calm himself.  Quite understandable.

Here's his classic appearance for the record
I'm saddened that they didn't keep his combi-flamer, but that hardly looks like a challenge to splice on.  Not seeing the sprues, I wouldn't be too sure on the head.

The White Scar-- Wow, they actually made a deathwatch bike.
I haven't seen much of the Vth this last while, and know very little about them, so I cannot say much.  But I must say I have learnt much just by looking at the figure.  Feral, homeless and free, honour-bound to traditions so old their meanings are lost, proud and arrogant-- this is what he gives off, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was his Chapter's archetype.

Fus Ro Dah-- I'm sorry, I actually laughed to find they had included a Blood Raven, and that they had made him a librarian.  A lot of people are saying that the Blood Ravens were a missing legion, and does this inclusion prove it...?
I will not deny, it is an intimidating pose; he appears to be in the middle of retorting to a challenge, maybe casting a suitably violent spell-- very, very well done indeed.  It also appears to be a re-imagining of the classic and impractical but oh-so-whimsical Jes Goodwin pose.  Do you see the classic lightning bolt on his thighs?  I forgot that was a libarian's symbol.
And I'm sorry for the Skyrim reference.

A shadow dancer-- A lot of people have complained about the pose of the Kayvaan Shrike figure over the years, saying it was too balletic.  I think that was the idea; their style of combat would be not unlike the eldar in grace, if not speed.  Do you see those little hooks at the end of the lightning claws?  Those are unique to the sons of the XIXth.  Yet another addition they didn't need to do but added anyway and it looks wonderful.  Elegant and light-footed-- the archetype of the Raven guard.
You know, if I hadn't sworn allegiance to my lord  the Praetorian I would have followed the shadowed lord.

How adorable--  A snub-nosed terminator helmet!  I felt the firedrakes were the best bit of the Tome of Fire triology, and here we have a real one!
The detail too-- the heat damage across the chest, salamander pelts everywhere-- even that distinct Promethian way of depicting fire on the chest, that green edged in gold, reminds me a bit of Sigmar's comet.  And the heavy flamer, that's another thing.  It wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't made that weapon himself.  I haven't got much to say about this chap, except that it's so BRILLIANT and unintentionally CUTE!

Shot-cycler-- Oh, I really don't know what to think about this one...  It's a VIIth Astartes, with the classic devastator boots (on Mk VI legs as well) and a helmet that closely resembles my own preferance... But that shot-cycler.  Really.  And that token gesture pipe.
Looking at the muzzle I think it's meant to be a frag cannon, a sort of grenade launcher usually used by the sons of Sanguinius-- but that string of projectiles lead either straight out of the drum and back in, or nowhere; I find it an unusual design, not like I can talk with my own design, I just personally don't like it.  Which is sad.  But they made the heavy weapon specialist a son of the VIIth; he really looks like he's gritting his teeth behind that mask.  With foul oaths he plants his feet and with a blackening heart he swears to die before he steps back-- an archetype of the Imperial Fists.

A beautiful Dhampir
-- While he doesn't have the dancer-like appearance of the Raven guard, the character of the Blood Angel is no less apparent in his pose full of barely-chained rage, as if every breath is a breath closer to level E and he is full aware of it and doesn't care.  You know, come to think of it, that pose has a lot of backwards motion to it; it seems a bit awkward, a bit inhuman... Oh, hang on...

The Grimblood-- Do you remember the Space Wolf deathwatch astartes in the same team as Uriel Ventris?  I can't remember his name or company, but I do know he was unbelievably badass, particularly the fact he shed his helmet so he could sniff his way through to the Norn-Queen.  Maybe this is that same son of Fenris.
The first thing to catch my eye on this sculpt was the knife scabbard.  As a child I was most fond of toys that had swords they could put away and carry.  Why did I bring that up?  Usually, space marines mag-lock their knives thew their belts-- once again, they didn't have to add the sheath but they did anyway.  Very nice.
The pose too, that righteous beserkr fury with blades out and gun flung unwanted to one side-- an archetype of the Space Wolves.

The Iron Hand-- I have to start on a bad note, I'm sorry.  That face, the clean halved look... the first thing I saw, and it's too tidy, marring an otherwise wonderful figure.  I believe this might be the first plastic suit of Mk II, of course worn by a Xth astartes, and suitably modified.  That odd leg reflects that of the old metal tyrannic war vet, yet another nice homage to the past.
Reloading poses aren't usually favoured by many, from what I've seen at least, but do you not realise the image it portrays?  One of calculation, one who thinks hard before acting, an air of unmoving, but calm and accepting, not as reckless or maddened as the VIIth-- a proper archetype of the Iron Hands.

About as Vanilla as Overkill will allow itself--  A second Ultramarine.  A Blood Raven and a second Ultramarine.  In the words of Tarik Torgaddon, "... but there's so bloody many of them".  I was about to question the inclusion of another XIIIth when I remembered-- but of course, the Ultramarines really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, HATE the bugs for what they did to Macragge all those years past.  Remember the box set?  I was born too late, but do you see this homage?
A staunch, stable (and probably rigorously drilled) pose from a classic bit of deathwatch cloth, proper display of icons and exclusive use of the hesh-pattern bolter.  Where Cassius was wild and vengeful, this fellow keeps his anger behind his eyes and sees only calm death before him -- the Ultramarine archetype.

The Gregorian-- it's like the Lion touched some stained-glass window within the Rock and gave it life.  Once again, a completely different style to the rest of the team; the waisting of the sword, the studs and the habit, gothic arches everywhere, and of course the only plasma weapon in the squad.
Next to the librarian I believe he is the most literature-heavy-- not by much, but the reliquary full of scrolls on his back is a very nice addition.  It all screams "Ist legion" rather loudly, doesn't it?

Overall, they're all very nice.  I've been using that word rather too often now.  What the hell.  They're all ANGELIC.  Except for that shot-cycler.

And now I've rambled myself out.  Perhaps I've confirmed some things in your mind about what you thought.  What do you think, by-the-by?  Do you like the sculpts, are there things you'd want to change should you buy Overkill?  I'd be interested to hear!



  1. Cassius's face isn't a melted mess as Overkill is set long before he faced the Tyranids. He's relatively young in this :)

    1. Oh- oh! Thanks for that, I didn't realise! I really need to research more before publishing my opinions.

  2. I don't know, I just feel like there is enough wrong with every sculpt for me to question buying this. I wish there was a Techmarine in there as well, or a Black Shield marine of questionable origin instead of the second Ultramarine... The hybrids on the other hand are all awesome-sauce.

  3. I think the reason I don't want to buy the set is because all those models are archetypes of the legions they represent. By that I mean there's no real way you could portray them as other legions without a huge amount of work.

    And the blood Angel to me doesn't represent the snarling, barely contained savagery of their legion - not like space wolves but it doesn't portray the feeling that any minute he's gonna drop the sword and just rip out the throat of his enemy.

  4. I find the concept of the box interesting game, I know the DeathWatch RPG to say against it lacks the characters considering the price of the box.
    Too expensive in my opinion for the content.
    also disappointed postures members, the majority can be converted by taking combination of DA Dark Angels, Grey Knight bits and ... lots of bits :)

    It is cheaper to buy a box of gray knights, a space marine, space wolves and a half the price of the box almost.
    It seems to me also recognize one of my DeathWatch Space Wolves with the same posture :D

    1. I suppose you are paying for the game as well... It seems GW still have the metal deathwatch upgrade kit available, too, that'd be a good investment (if it's in stock).